Interested in organized matches?

[Bucko]

During the past couple of weeks, the number of OSG'ers playing this game seems on the rise. With a greater number of OSG tags showing up each time we play, others have noticed the tags and a few teams have inquired as to whether we are interested in organized scrims. When they ask, I've just been telling them that we are just getting started in this game as a team and that we may be interested in the near future but not today... that's mainly because I don't know how interested you guys are in doing this.

If we did head down this path, I suspect we would only scrim with other mature clans who are in it for the fun of the "true teamplay" rather than just bragging rights. Obviously when you scrim you play to win, and scrims are definately more exciting to participate in than casual play, but I don't want to get involved with l33t teenage assnapkin teams.

Here's an example of one team that asked if we were interested.. Henpecked Husbands of Norway: http://www.hphnorway.com/hphcenter/news.php

So... any interest? I would think we would need at least 4-5 players, preferably more. If not, I will just let others know we are casual play only team, I'm good either way.

[Iceman]

i would def be inerested bucko sounds lika alot of fun , think we should be practicing more on teamwork....hope to get that ded server soon would be even better...

[PiLL-Doc]

I'm always up for an organized scrimmage, I would most likely have time to scrimm Friday-Sunday.

[Bucko]

i would def be inerested bucko sounds lika alot of fun , think we should be practicing more on teamwork....

Agreed on the teamwork... To me, there is casual play and then there is competitive play. If we play competitively we will need to do some things differently than when we do when we play casually.... For example we will need to keep the TS channel clear of any chatter that is not directly contributing toward helping whoever is captain capture the points... this means I have to restrain myself from my goofy jokes and quoting various movies, I shouldn't even say things like "damn! he must be hacking" or whatever because it's not directly related to capturing points and can bleed over important verbal messages or make it hard for the captain to hear what's going on.

We also would need to find a way from preventing folks not scheduled to participate in the scrim from dropping in and talking about sports or whatever (lol) in the middle of a scrim or training preparation. Obviously they have no way of knowing when we are in progress just by looking at team speak, so we may need to figure out a way to either lock the teamspeak channel, or create a new TS channel that requires a password set up for scrimming or something similar.

Then there is the stuff like making sure we can block off an hour of time when we won't be interrupted, making sure our PC runs the game reliability and if not that all technical glitches are fixed before we get into a scrim and crash since it will impact everyone if folks are dropping out.

If we get enough takers we can work out the rules of engagement through consensus... maybe some of you guys that are doing competitive racing can help provide some insight on the best approaches here.

Above all I want to be sure that any organized games do not detract from the overall fun anyone of us is having from the game, because if it does then the purpose is defeated.


hope to get that ded server soon would be even better...

As of right now, our host does not support FC2, which is the case with a lot of other hosts. The reason for this is klunky admin tools for the dedicated server and a lot of hosts don't want to deal with it. Supposedly Ubisoft is working on this and will come out with a good remote admin console sometime soon, and if they don't do it a third party probably will.

Oddly enough, a non-dedicated server is simply much easier to run at this point because commands can be issued from the console by the admin. If I am running a non-dedicated server, I can just issue "net_ChangeCaptain" to change the captain, or "net_ExtendMatch" to extend the match. Putting different maps in the rotation is a pain in the arse from what I understand, on a dedicated-server. I have also noticed the firewall tricks that enabled me to smoothly run a non-dedicated server do not seem to be working as well on dedicated servers, so Ubi has some work to do there or maybe the hosts have some things to figure out. But I do believe that dedicated servers are the future of this game.

Those HPH guys do have a dedicated server, although I think they are still getting slot drops between rounds so who knows maybe we can learn some things from each other. As far as I can tell they are still primarily a COD4 clan that are just starting to move in the direction of FC2, everyone is still new to it at this point... but as an organized team they seem to be a good group...

Check out this page: http://www.hphnorway.com/hphcenter/news.php?s=12&page=4&cat=0&sortby=&sortorder=&searchid=

They would have the immediate edge on us because they have team t-shirts :)

[Bucko]

I'm always up for an organized scrimmage, I would most likely have time to scrimm Friday-Sunday.

Sounds good Pill, weekends are best for me too. I see scheduling as perhaps the biggest challenge, especially if we are playing teams in different time zones... even within our own team it may be an issue, but I guess we'll just see how much interest there is and then figure it out from there.

[SaskNewfie]

I'm visiting in-laws in New Brunswick for a few days, but I'm up for it when I get back on Monday...sounds fun.

[Bucko]

I'm visiting in-laws in New Brunswick for a few days, but I'm up for it when I get back on Monday...sounds fun.

No rush, I suspect we would be at least a couple of weeks from really being able to do this. But three people interested is definately a good start. Anyone else?

[GOAT]

OK, Bucko you can put me down for a substitute when needed which means that I will be there on a night that you have a match but I won't be used unless you don't have enough people to play. I really hate to get into Matches because I am not that good and I feel lousy when I screw up and let the team down so I don't really like to play in matches except fun matches!

[Bucko]

OK, Bucko you can put me down for a substitute when needed which means that I will be there on a night that you have a match but I won't be used unless you don't have enough people to play. I really hate to get into Matches because I am not that good and I feel lousy when I screw up and let the team down so I don't really like to play in matches except fun matches!

I think youre either too modest or just a better player than you think you are. I also believe a lot of folks look at the scoreboard and decide how well they are doing based solely on that. This would be correct if we were Team Deathmaching but when you play Uprising, what matters is whether your team wins and you take the wins and the losses together.

In Uprising you cannot tell just from the scoreboard who contributed the most. A good captain might have the lowest score on the board, because he did his job well and captured the points quickly and efficiently. Everyone else who is helping the captain reach the objective can be contributing a great deal without ever putting a point on the board. When I am not captain, I try to put myself in between the captain and any potential threats when he is capturing a point, to make myself a human target.. Maybe I can shoot a foe and maybe not, but more likely I have created an obstacle to eliminating our captain which may buy him some time... This is not always the best move to do because it can also draw attention TO your captain on certain maps/certain situations.

The main point is if you're not captain, just do everything you can to help him get to points, even if that is running out in the street as a sacrifice to draw sniper fire away from him. Your kill score might suck but what matters is the team win. You'll likely get more XP from the team win anyway.

So, we'd love to have you, only thing is we gotta figure out what's causing the lockups mid-game on your PC and fix that, because it's gonna be a bummer if we set up a match of 5 on 5 for example and someone drops and we have 4.

[KEEPER]

Hey

Sounds like a good idea and if you need me I am in when I can play

[Bucko]

So far, I've got Iceman, Pill-Doc, Sask, Nip, Goat, Keeper.

Anyone else interested in scrimming with us? We will have some practices on a private teamspeak server to brush up on teamwork.

Also we need a volunteer to be in charge of finding scrims and scheduling them and overall being a central communication point between teams. If no volunteers I guess that's me, but I don't think my work schedule is going to produce good results, because I am back to work from the holidays now, which means a couple of hours of gaming at best on weeknights. I will be gaming longer hours on Friday or Saturday night and these are the best nights to scrim based on the consensus I've been hearing about everyone's schedule.
The one thing that's important with scrim scheduling is to always clearly communicate the time using EST. You also need to be aware of the fact that when talking to folks in other countries that you cannot expect some of them to know how their time translates to EST off the top of their head, so you need to be willing to constantly clarify/clear up any confusion that may occur regarding scheduled times. The one thing that will be a catastrophe is if matches are schedules at poorly communicated times, people show up (or don't show up) because the time was not communicated well. This may also involve lingering on xfire or whatever with key contacts on other teams to line up scrims.

Please let me know in the forum if you want to be in charge of scheduling.

[SaskNewfie]

Also we need a volunteer to be in charge of finding scrims and scheduling them and overall being a central communication point between teams.

I can help out with this...i'm sure it'll take a few days to come up with a challenge, but I'll work on it.

[maxxblood]

Sounds good to me... I'm in

[Bucko]

I can help out with this...i'm sure it'll take a few days to come up with a challenge, but I'll work on it.

That would be awesome if you could help out with this Sask. There are a lot of aspects of this I would like us to think through and discuss as a team, and we really need some practice sessions before we start taking on other teams. It's not that I mind to lose, I will take losses as easily as wins.

What I am concerned about is that currently, there are not an infinite number of teams/clans playing FC2, it's kind of a smaller, tighter-knit group where there is lots of word-of-mouth. If we go into a scrim against a team that is accustomed to the techniques of competitive play, and we come off as unorganized, we will look like goof-offs. Who cares right? Well the problem is if they write us off as assclowns, they won't want to play us again. I don't want to burn bridges. Keep in mind I could care less if we get owned, as long as we've made a good team effort... To do any less is inconsiderate of the guys on the other team and the fact that they made time in their schedule to meet with us. This only applies to scheduled matches... as far as impromptu ones where we just happen to have 5 or 6 guys online and they have the same, I don't really care how those go down, but we should see those as an opportunity to refine teamwork as well.

I think this has the potential to be a lot of fun for everyone involved, just needs to be thought through a little bit. Whenever we schedule a match we need to find out which maps are expected to be played so we can get some tactics going on those maps... And also whether the other team is expecting to play APR or UFLL or if they want to alternate, because your tactics can be different depending on which side of the map you start on.

[Bucko]

Sounds good to me... I'm in

Thanks Maxx, looking forward to it.

[HaveGunTravels]

I am in. Also, we may have a few more new men requesting membership. We all agreed that during the week we would be going to bed a little earlier so get in as soon as you tidy up the family affairs. We have been having a hoot!

[Bucko]

I am in. Also, we may have a few more new men requesting membership. We all agreed that during the week we would be going to bed a little earlier so get in as soon as you tidy up the family affairs. We have been having a hoot!

Interesting Nip, who else requested membership?

Regarding hours - yes during the week my "main" gaming hours will probably be sometime between 7:30-10:00 (wrapping up around 10:30 at the latest), and some weeknights may not be on at all. Weekends should stay pretty active for the foreseeable future.

[HaveGunTravels]

When I mentioned scrims to the men on TS Hippy and Monk and I believe one other said they were very interested. They did not ask how to sign up but I did not push it either. I did say they would have to be members to wear our tags and panty hose. I know McFeely does not wear any underwear from what I am told but he is the exception. I heard he plays naked eating cheese curls.

[Bucko]

McFeely doesn't seem to get a lot of use of his OSG tags in FC2 so we can probably timeshare his tags with someone else.. lol

[SaskNewfie]

Hippy and Monk

Hippy was on last night...I think he'd be a good addition. I played once before last night with him, but last night was the first I've seen him on TS. Was Monk on last night too? I can't remember...

[Bucko]

Monk seems to come on a little later than I'm available on weekdays but hopefully I can make that up on weekends... but he and Hippy would be great additions as far as I'm concerned.

If anyone didn't like the way we split up the channels please let me know, it was the only way I could think to address large # of OSG'ers some of which were not on same team, aside from just going deathmatching. We could say only type what your team is doing, but some people dont like to type in game (I don't really, but I could), and I think if we are gearing up for competitive matches the split channels is a good idea because it helps us learn the maps from both perspectives -- also helps with teamwork I think, because less clutter on a single teamspeak channel.

[SaskNewfie]

I didn't mind it...adds to the fun. As for typing, the only time i type is if i'm captain and even then it's simply a, b or c...nothing more.

[Roo]

I think it's a good idea...oh wait, I've only been on 2 full games so far. BTW, we won both of them!! :)

[rainingj]

Hey Bucko i speak for me and trapper. We would love to and the weekend is by far the best time.

[Bucko]

I am still interested in this, although if we do, we are definately going to need to have at least a few very active people willing to line up scrims, find out which map the other team wants to play in advance, etc (so we can get the team togther, figure out tactices and practice on the selected maps from both sides). My dilemma at the moment is that my weekday available has "returned to normal" (in other words minimal) since I returned to work after a long holiday break. I am still available for long weekend nights, I just probably won't have a lot of time to do the leg work organizing scrims.

[SaskNewfie]

I've been canvassing a few clan servers, but had no luck yet. Not too many clans are playing this as a team...I honestly don't know where to search. Perhaps the UBI forums?

[Bucko]

It's a good question Sask, and I don't have the answers at this point other than maybe hooking up in game lobbies. Until they come out with some good tools for running a dedicated servers, we may have to wait a while.

[hippy]

i'm in. can we call ourselves on certain nights "the religous killers".
as for as most know "monk" and my alter ego "the_friggin_pope"

just passing gas.

count me in for the fights though!


(the_friggin_pope)mbhippy.

[SaskNewfie]

Has everyone who's interested applied to OSG? I know with WaW, one or two members couldn't play until they were OSG members. I'm sure it's the same thing for FarCry2.

[Bucko]

Yes, if you've been playing with us a lot on TS please do apply for OSG.

[Bucko]

I was talking to Blackhawk about a potential scrim his guys, PO3. Anyone interested in lining it up for us? Weekends are best for me and most of us I think.

http://po3squad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2661

[SaskNewfie]

I can register with them and ask about a scrim...

[Bucko]

I can register with them and ask about a scrim...

That would be awesome if you could Sask

[SaskNewfie]

Well, i tried registering but for some reason i cannot. I sent an email to them...hopefully they'll respond.

[Bucko]

I'll mention that you had problems registering on their site next time I see Blackhawk online. I noticed what looked like database configuration problems on their main page http://www.po3squad.com that may be related to registration not working, so they might not be aware of the issue.